Play annotation ...daayax̱aḵá.
...I said.
Play annotation This conversation is continued from #45. Speakers are Kax̱lige Norman James, Dagé Winnie Atlin and Shaayi Éesh Smith Katzeek. Recorded August 14, 2010 in Carcross, YT, Canada. Produced at the University of Alaska Southeast, this material is based upon work supported by the National Science Foundation/National Endowment for the Humanities, Documenting Endangered Languages initiative under Grant No. 0853788. Any opinions, findings, and conclusions or recommendations expressed in this material are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of the National Science Foundation.
Recorded by Nakil.aan Mark Hans Chester. Tlingit transcription by X̱ʼunei Lance Twitchell. English translation by Kaaxwaan Éesh George Davis, Shakʼ Sháani Margaret Dutson, and Wudasheeyi Tláa Alice Taff. Proofread by X̱ʼaagi Sháawu Keri Eggleston. SYMBOLS: {false start}, (added for clarity), [translator/transcriber's note]. ??? = canʼt understand.
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Play annotation Ch'áakw, du éesh,
Long ago, his father,
Play annotation haa eeG̱ayáak hít,
(in) the house below us.
Play annotation áa yéi téeyin {áa yáa-} áa yéi has téeyin ch'áakw.
he used to live there, they used to live there long ago.
Play annotation Aa,
Play annotation x̱at yaawatín.
He recognized me.
Play annotation Áyá,
So,
Play annotation ax̱ éet x̱'eiwatán.
he spoke to me.
Play annotation Ḵut wooxeex tle.
It got lost ???
Play annotation ???
Play annotation ??? tle hóoch'.
??? that's it.
Play annotation Yoo x̱'atángi ch'u tle a tóot shuwaxíx.
Ran out of words.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Góok, {kanash-} sh kaneelneek wa.é.
Go ahead and tell it, you.
Play annotation Dei ax̱ tóot shuwaxíx.
I ran out of words. ???
Play annotation Tlóo!
Whoops (?)!
Play annotation Jilḵáat ḵwáani x̱ánt koowdayaa áyá tle hóoch'.
When the Chilkat people show up, then that's it.
Play annotation ḴáakliG̱éi wa.é sh kaneelneek.
Ḵáakligéi [Norman], you go ahead and tell us.
Play annotation Uh, x̱át tsú,
Me too,
Play annotation kalneek ax̱ shuwaxeex.
I ran out of stories.
Play annotation Yaawat'áa yáa neil.
It's warm in here.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Ch'áakw áyá,
Long ago,
Play annotation atyátx'i sáani neil yéi dax̱ téeyin, huh?
the children used to be home, huh?
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Adáx̱ áwé wé sgóonde dax̱ woo.aat.
Then they went to school.
Play annotation AaG̱áa áwé has du jeedáx̱ wuduwatee, wé has du yoo x̱'atángi.
And then they took it from them, their language.
Play annotation It's the government, yéi duwasáakw, "government."
It's the government, they call it "government".
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa tsu government áwé tsu dáanaa [yaa ashunashíx ???].
Now the government is ??? money.
Play annotation Yoo x̱'atángi has du jeedé.
Giving them language.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Tlél yaa ḵoosgé wé "government" yéi duwasáagu aa.
The one called "government" has no wisdom.
Play annotation Aaá. Áyáx̱ áwé sh keelneek.
Yes, you're telling the truth.
Play annotation Ḵa yóo,
And this,
Play annotation ḵa yáa yeedát tsú,
and now, this very moment,
Play annotation yá haa yátx'u sáani tlél áyá has yéi jeeneiyí.
our children don't work.
Play annotation {has dux̱ísh-} Haa dux̱áshdin.
They used to spank us.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa áwé,
Now though,
Play annotation yá haa yátx'u ch'a, ch'a daa sá
our children, anything (they're doing)
Play annotation tlél áyáx̱ yéi has jeeneiyí,
when they're not working right,
Play annotation has du kaadéi yeeyḵaayí,
when you speak for them,
Play annotation ??? x̱ánde nashíxch.
they run to ???.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Aadáx̱ áwé tsu wé haa,
From there again, our,
Play annotation uháan ḵu.aa áwé tsu we're in trouble,
we however, again we're in trouble
Play annotation kaxéel' tóo yéi haa nateech, has du daat.
we're always in trouble, according to them.
Play annotation Ách áwé yeedát haa yátx'u sáani tlél {has du tun-} has du
This is why now our children don't, their,
Play annotation ḵushtuyáx̱ ch'a máa sá yéi has jineiyí.
no matter how hard they work.
Play annotation Tlél áyáx̱ áwé ch'a tlákw wé government yeedát.
It's always not right, the government, nowadays.
Play annotation Haa yátx'u sáani tlél áyáx̱ has ḵoostí.
Our young children are not living right.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Tlél yá has du tláa tlél uh,
They don't, their mothers, they don't
Play annotation tlél has ayoonéi.
they don't respect them.
Play annotation Haa gooshé {máa sá dam-} máa sá yéi jigax̱toonéi yá haa yátx'u, haa dachx̱ánx'i hás?
How we are going to work for the benefit of our children, our grandchildren?
Play annotation Uh, x̱at [ḵux̱watin yát ???] ḵu.aa
???
Play annotation dleit ḵáa ée dultóow Lingít x̱'éináx̱ yoo x̱'atánk.
the white people are being taught the Tlingit language.
Play annotation A x̱oo aa tlax̱ k'idéin yoo has x̱'ayatánk áyá, dleit ḵáa.
Some of the white people speak well.
Play annotation Yóot, Fairbanks-idáx̱ yéi duwasáakw, máa sá duwasáakw wéit?
From Fairbanks they call him, what do they call him?
Play annotation Jeff Leer.
Play annotation Yisikóo gé?
Do you know him?
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Yéil Kunéiyi.
Yéil Kunéiyi.
Play annotation Yéil Kunéiyi?
Yéil Kunéiyi?
Play annotation Aaá, Lukaax̱.ádich,
Yes, the Lukaax̱.ádi clan
Play annotation Lukaax̱.ádich {du jeet aw-} du yáa wduwasáay, [Or: du yáa wduwasáa]
The Lukaax̱.ádi named him that,
Play annotation Keixwnéich áwé, Nora.
Keixwnéi did it, Nora.
Play annotation ??? x̱wasakú
??? I don't know
Play annotation Yee aayít áyá, góok.
It's your guys' thing, go ahead.
Play annotation Yéi x̱'ayatee ldakát yáat'aa, ch'a l,
He/she is imitating/quoting all of this, just,
Play annotation x'áan yáx̱ {du, yéi,} wé dachx̱án.
like anger, the grandchildren.
Play annotation ??? kaxéel'x̱ sitee tle
??? it's trouble
Play annotation Yeah.
Play annotation Hóoch'.
That' all.
Play annotation Haa dax̱íshdin uháan tsú.
We used to get spanked too.
Play annotation Yeah.
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa,
And now
Play annotation hél ḵoostí.
it doesn't exist.
Play annotation Hél ḵaa x̱'éix̱ dus.aax̱ yeedát.
Nobody listens to anybody now.
Play annotation Kushtuyáx̱ yá haa tláa gooshé?
Our mothers don't matter, maybe?
Play annotation Ch'áakw ḵáa {woosh yéit-} woosh yáa aydunéiyin.
Long ago people used to have respect for one another.
Play annotation Hél yéi at utí de.
Now it's not like that.
Play annotation No.
Play annotation Tsu tleix̱ áyá ḵut yaa yanaxíx yá Lingít ḵustí.
And for forever, this Tlingit way of living is running astray.
Play annotation Ch'a gaaw katoo.aaḵw.
Right away we are trying.
Play annotation Tlax̱ a yáanáx̱ áwé.
It's too much.
Play annotation Dleit ḵáa [yan yaa nahás ???]
White man ???
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Ách áwé haa shagóon
That's why our heritage
Play annotation ḵut kei naxíx.
is getting lost.
Play annotation Ch'a tlákw yéi téeyi, {a yanóox' át,} a yanóox'x̱ gux̱satée,
It's always been like this, it will become a shell,
Play annotation haa shagóon daat át.
things about our heritage.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Ch'áagu ḵáawu,
Old timers,
Play annotation has du shagóon,
their heritage,
Play annotation has du shagóon daat át áwé ch'a tlákw yaa has ayanasxíxin k'idéin yéináx̱ {yoo} een yéi jinéiyin.
they used to always run it according to their heritage, they used to work well with ???.
Play annotation Tlél, tlél yóo koowáat áwé ??? x̱'ax̱wa.aax̱ch
I always heard [it's not that big/unfathomable ???]
Play annotation woosh een yéi jitooneiyí.
if we work together.
Play annotation AaG̱áa shákdé haa gux̱latseen.
And then maybe we'll be strong.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Yéi áwé.
That's it.
Play annotation Hél x̱wateen.
I don't see it.
Play annotation Áyáx̱ [guG̱walhéin ???] haa ḵusteeyí
??? our way of life
Play annotation k'idéin katoo.aaG̱ú.
if we try hard,
Play annotation yagax̱toodláaḵ,
we will succeed.
Play annotation Yéi áwé ax̱ tootée nooch.
That's how I always feel.
Play annotation Yagax̱toodláaḵw; hél ḵut kei kG̱waxeex,
We will succeed; it won't get lost,
Play annotation yá haa léelk'u hás ḵusteeyí.
our grandparents' way of living.
Play annotation Ách áwé a daa yéi jix̱anéi x̱át tsú.
That's why I'm working on it too.
Play annotation Haa tláa hás has du éet G̱atooshéet.
So we can help our mothers.
Play annotation Ḵa yá G̱uneiwtí,
Also G̱uneiwtí (Marsha Hotch),
Play annotation du ée x̱wadasheeyí,
when I help her,
Play annotation yáa ḵaa éet latóowu ???
teacher ???
Play annotation áwé has du ée x̱adashee.
I help them.
Play annotation Áyá,
So,
Play annotation yéi s daayax̱aḵá, hél ḵut kei kG̱waxeex,
I tell them we will not lose it,
Play annotation haa Lingít ḵusteeyí.
our Tlingit way of living.
Play annotation Hél ḵut keiG̱waxeex.
We will not lose it.
Play annotation Ax̱ éesh yéi áyá x̱'ayaḵáayin,
This is what my father used to say,
Play annotation "Gushé hél wáa sá yateeyi ús'aa
"It doesn't matter what soap
Play annotation sh daa yoo kadahéigi,
you rub on yourself,
Play annotation ch'u Lingítx̱ i gux̱satée.
you'll still be Tlingit.
Play annotation Hél aax̱ gaG̱ee.óos'i á."
Its not something you can wash off."
Play annotation Yéi á haa daayaḵáayin.
That's what he used to tell us.
Play annotation Hél aax̱ gaG̱ee.óos' i Lingítx̱ sateeyí.
You're not going to wash off being a Tlingit.
Play annotation Du tuwáa sigóo ??? dleit ḵáa wusteeyí.
He wanted to be a white person.
Play annotation Yoo x̱at dul.átgi áyá yéi haa daayaḵáayin, "At yisa.áx̱.
When he'd talk to us, he'd say, "Listen.
Play annotation Át yisa.áx̱."
Listen."
Play annotation Yeedát ḵú áwé,
And now,
Play annotation daat x̱oot saa ???
???
Play annotation yéi gax̱too.óo
we're going to wear/use
Play annotation yá dleit ḵáa haa daadáx̱ gax̱du.óos'i aa.
the white man will wash it off of us.
Play annotation Yéi áwé.
That's it.
Play annotation Yee toowú klatseen!
You all be spiritually strong!
Play annotation Yee toowú klatseen aaG̱áa áwé,
You all be spiritually strong, and then
Play annotation G̱áa yagax̱toodláaḵ.
we will succeed this time.
Play annotation Woosh jín yei gax̱toosháat.
We will hold each other's hands.
Play annotation A géide gax̱too.áat yáa dleit ḵáa ḵusteeyí,
We'll go against it, the white man's way of living,
Play annotation Lingítx̱ haa sateeyí.
us being Tlingit.
Play annotation Woosh tin yéi jitudaneiyí yagax̱toodláaḵ, yéi áyá ax̱ tutée nooch.
I always feel like if we're working together, we will succeed.
Play annotation Hóoch' áyá tle yoo x̱'atánk.
This is it in talking (on this subject.)
Play annotation Kát shuwaxíx yáat.
It's all used up here.
Play annotation ???
None
Play annotation Há, yeewháan áwé tle,
Well, you guys just,
Play annotation X̱at kawdixwétl.
I'm tired.
Play annotation Aadé yóo ??? tlél ??? seiwux'áḵw dei.
??? he forgot it now.
Play annotation Tliyéix' yéi yee natí!
You guys be still!
Play annotation Sh eelk'átl'!
Be quiet!
Play annotation Gwál a shoowú.
Maybe half of it.
Play annotation Gunalchéesh.
Thank you.
Play annotation Yées daséikw.
Fresh air.
Play annotation A x̱oodé yoo x̱'atángi ???
Some of the language ???
Play annotation Xwéi!
Whew!
Play annotation Yéi haa woonei x̱á.
That happened to us.
Play annotation Háw.
Well.
Play annotation X̱át tsú.
Me too.
Play annotation Yaa ndaḵín, shákdéi.
It's flying, maybe.
Play annotation Yaa ndaḵín dzísk'w,
Flying moose,
Play annotation wasóos.
cow.
Play annotation Yaa ndaḵín wasóos kwshé yéi gax̱toosáa "penguin."
A flying cow, maybe we'll name it "penguin."
Play annotation Penguin ḵu.aa héen táak yaa ndaḵín.
Penguins though, fly through water.
Play annotation Kei ḵunat'áa yá Lingít'aaní.
The world is getting warmer.
Play annotation G̱eiwú yéi has aa nasneech,
They'd set their nets,
Play annotation aadáx̱ áwé ts'ootaat,
after that the morning,
Play annotation shayadihéin has anasG̱éiwch.
they'd get a lot of fish.
Play annotation AaG̱áa áwé Lingít x̱oodé {has anas-}
And then, among the people they,
Play annotation has anas.átch.
they'd [take ???] it.
Play annotation Tle x̱áat jiḵoox̱.
Taking the fish to share.
Play annotation Ch'a ldakát.
Everyone.
Play annotation Haa jeedé yéi daadunéi wé x̱áat.
The fish is given out to all of us.
Play annotation Ḵa wé dzísk'u tsú, dzísk'w
And the moose too, moose
Play annotation wudujaaG̱í,
when they kill it,
Play annotation ch'a ldakát Lingít
every person
Play annotation ???
???
Play annotation has du jeedé yéi daadunéi.
it is given to them.
Play annotation Ch'a ldakát.
Everyone.
Play annotation Yáa, táakw yaa ḵunahéini,
When winter is coming,
Play annotation yáa Carcross,
Carcross,
Play annotation woosh, yáat'aa
together, this thing
Play annotation aadé yéi has guG̱atée yei táakwni yís ch'a ldakát.
that's how they'll be for winter, everything.
Play annotation Tlél aasá yáak yéi tée neech.
Nobody is here.
Play annotation Ch'a ldakát {haa t-} has du tl'átgi kaadéi ana.átch
Everybody would go to their land
Play annotation G̱aatáa een.
with traps.
Play annotation Aadáx̱ áwé has guG̱a.aadí, ch'a ldakát,
From there, when they go, all of them,
Play annotation woosh x̱oonáx̱ ana.átch
they'd come together
Play annotation gadus.éeych woosh x̱'éidáx̱ at dux̱á.
they'd cook and eat together.
Play annotation Aadáx̱ áwés,
From there,
Play annotation táakw shuwuxeexí,
when winter is over,
Play annotation ḵutaan ???
summer ???
Play annotation yeisú haadé ana.átch ch'a ldakát yá Carcross-dé.
they still all come here to Carcross.
Play annotation Ch'a ldakát woosh yáat yéi teeyí, {tsu yéi} tsu yéi ch'a ldakát at dus.ée neech.
When everyone is back here, then everyone always cooks.
Play annotation Woosh x̱'éide at dux̱á.
They eat together.
Play annotation Sagú een.
With happiness.
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa tlél yéi utí.
Now it's not that way.
Play annotation Dax̱ashiG̱eiḵ yeedát.
They're stingy now.
Play annotation Áyáx̱ ákwé?
Is that right?
Play annotation ḴaakliG̱éi?
Norman?
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Hóoch áwé awsikóo.
He's the one that knows.
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa chush yóo dleit ḵáa áwé daa has yawsitáḵ.
[Now though the white man is taking care of them ???]
Play annotation Uháan ḵu.aa áwé a kát has seiwax'áḵw.
But they have forgotten us.
Play annotation Haa sháade héni ???
Our leader ???
Play annotation {Yéi áwé, Aawé} Yéi áwé s x̱aatéen.
That is how I see them.
Play annotation Tlél ultseen wé self government.
It's not strong, the self-government.
Play annotation Dziyáak,
A little while ago,
Play annotation dziyáak yagiyee, ax̱ een,
a few days ago,
Play annotation kayineegí
you told me
Play annotation matk'átsk'u kei neewaadí,
when you're a child growing up,
Play annotation at shooḵ
laughter
Play annotation at shooḵ yoo x̱'atángi yáx̱,
like laughter in language,
Play annotation woosh x̱oo {yoo x̱'adu- ya-} yoo x̱'awduli.átk.
talking amongst each other.
Play annotation Oh, woosht yoo x̱'atángi tóonáx̱ áwé ch'a tlákw at shooḵ neejín.
There always used to be laughter through speaking together.
Play annotation Ḵushtuyáx̱ ???
It doesn't matter ???
Play annotation ??? has wu.aadí.
??? when they go.
Play annotation Tle at shooḵ déi at ???
Just laughter ???
Play annotation Yéi áwé s x̱'ax̱a.áx̱jin
That' what I always used to hear them say
Play annotation yéi x̱at kusageink'í.
when I was little.
Play annotation Aaá, ch'a tlákw tsú has {yoo x̱'at-}
Yes, they always
Play annotation ch'as yoo x̱'atángi tin áwé, tin shúkdé,
just with language, maybe
Play annotation yaa has ayanasxíxin has du shagóon daadé.
they used to run it according to their heritage.
Play annotation Has du yoo x̱'atángi tóonáx̱,
Through their language,
Play annotation shúkdéi, {k'idéin yei s at ya-} k'idéin yéi [nax̱as-]
maybe really well
Play annotation has adaanéiyin has du dachx̱ánx'i
they used to do it, their grandchildren
Play annotation [has du dé ya.áak?]
[a place for them?]
Play annotation {Yóo l'-} naalyéi has du ya.áak.
???
Play annotation Ḵa has du yoo x̱'atángi tóonáx̱ tsú shúkdé
And through their language too, maybe
Play annotation naalyéi has ayatéen
they see a far away place
Play annotation has du shux'waadé.
ahead of them.
Play annotation Yeedát ḵu.aa áwé,
Although now,
Play annotation tlél has du lú aanáx̱ has ayatéen.
they can't see through their noses.
Play annotation Hél dáanaa i jee yéi utí áyá.
You don't have any money.
Play annotation Hél dáanaa i jee yéi uteeyí, hél aadé i éet G̱watudisheeyi yé yeedát.
If you don't have money, there's no way we can help you now.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Ch'áagu ḵáawu woosh éet dushéeyin x̱á.
The old timers used to help each other, see.
Play annotation Hél yéi utí de.
It's not that way now.
Play annotation Tléik'.
No.
Play annotation Tlél dáanaanax̱ kei kei yak'éiyin, i jeetx̱ x̱á yagax̱dutée.
It doesn't get better through money, they'll take it away from you.
Play annotation Hél ḵaa éede gax̱dushee.
They're not going to help anyone.
Play annotation Tánk', gwál has du een kananeek x'wán we at shooḵ
Smitty, maybe tell them
Play annotation yoo x̱'atángi, Midori aayí.
Midori's joke.
Play annotation Gwál tléik'.
Maybe not.
Play annotation A kát [yaa] x̱at sana.x'áḵw.
I am forgetting it.
Play annotation Nora áwé, du éek', Johnny yoo dusáagun.
Nora, her brother, his name was Johnny.
Play annotation Ch'a daa sá,
Whatever,
Play annotation ch'a daa sá haa x̱oox' yéi yatee,
whatever is among us,
Play annotation {ax̱ een kaw-} ax̱ een akaawaneek,
he told me,
Play annotation "I léelk'w! I léelk'w áwé!
"Your grandparent! That's your grandparent!
Play annotation Wé gúx'aa áwé i léelk'w yan káx'!"
That cup is your grandparent!"
Play annotation I léelk'w, i léelk'w, i léelk'w, i léelk'w, i léelk'w, i léelk'w, i léelk'w,
Your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa, your grandpa,
Play annotation Ḵúnáx̱ áwé wutulishooḵ.
It really made us laugh.
Play annotation Ḵoowak'ít'.
He/she picked berries.
Play annotation Aaá.
Yes.
Play annotation Gwál Costco-dáx̱ shákdé,
Maybe from Costco, perhaps,
Play annotation ḵoowak'ít'.
s/he picked them.
Play annotation Ná! ???
Here! ???
Play annotation Yix̱á!
Eat it!
Play annotation Góok, at yix̱á dé!
Go ahead and eat now!
Play annotation Tlákw áyá at x̱ax̱á.
I'm always eating.
Play annotation {Ch'a} ch'a ???
Just ???
Play annotation Haa x̱'éix̱ at dutee tle, ??? yigoodí tlél at gaG̱eex̱aa.
They just feed us, ??? when you go, you won't eat.
Play annotation Yaa x̱at nalnétl.
I'm getting fat.
Play annotation Hél G̱unéi kG̱eegoot.
You won't start walking.
Play annotation Yáat'aa ??? x̱át ḵu.aa.
This ??? me though.
Play annotation ???
???
Play annotation Lis'é!
Wait!
Play annotation A saayí gé ḵudzitee "ice skating," Lingít x̱'éináx̱?
Does the name for "ice skating" exist in Tlingit?
Play annotation Tléik'.
No.
Play annotation Tlél x̱wasakú.
I don't know.
Play annotation Haw, x̱át tsú, tlél x̱wasakú.
Well, I don't know either.
Play annotation Ch'áagudáx̱
From long ago
Play annotation No, haa yoo x̱'atégni daa yoo x̱'aténgi
No, our language, about language
Play annotation Kindachooneit.
Mallard duck.
Play annotation Dleit ká.
On snow.
Play annotation Dleit ká, ká át nashxíxch.
It runs around on snow.
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